Me on Pivot Point podcast

This past week, I was the guest on PIVOT POINTS with JOSEPH DEBEASI, a podcast that talks about the ups, downs and “pivots” of living the creative life.

A little insider information is that, although I had a great time talking with Joseph, my feeling after we recorded our session was, that was a complete trainwreck. I even called him the next day to tell him that he didn’t need to use it, and I totally understood if he didn’t want to damage the reputation of his podcast with a guest whose contribution was an incoherent jumble of words. And of course, I was worried about what anyone who listened would think of me—who wants to hire a writer or editor who is unable to get to the end of a sentence!

Joseph, who is an amazing music composer with a deep background in sound editing, told me not to worry—that it would come out in the edit. True to his word, he did an amazing job of paring away my rambling digressions in order to make this a coherent and — dare I say it — even compelling interview.

You can check it out wherever you listen to your podcasts (I’m episode 58), or here:

3 thoughts on “Me on Pivot Point podcast

  1. I always struggle with meeting someone for the first time with conversation starters because I want to ask “What do you do”, but it doesn’t have to be a job…it could be “a musician but I make money as a Pharmacist.” Any tips on how to ask about someone’s interests?

    1. What do you think of: “So what gets you up in the morning?” A person could talk about work or kids or interests… or is it too wide open? I’ve been in situations where people ask “what are you passionate about?” or “do you have any any obsessions?” and those can lead to interesting answers, but can also feel a little hyperbolic. A person can just be interested in gardening without being obsessed. Maybe, “what are your interests?” Or “what do you enjoy doing?”

      1. Wonderful! Thank you! That could be another profession for you; How do I say____;).

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